I have a list of about 50 affiliate sponsors (adult), and all the websites that are part of their network. I want to get an idea of what would be the best choices to work with etc. I am looking at the following information right now (I write it all down in Excel):

- websiteoutlook.com -> Daily Page View, number of backlinks
- quantcast.com -> Visits Per Month
- compete.com -> Unique Visitors Per Month

So I am basically gonna see what the traffic is, and how many backlinks each website has. Then I want to do some calculations and go from there.

Does what I am doing make sense? Are there any better places to get info about websites, compare them, ang get a general idea what is what?

Thank you.

    

You can't link counting will NOT tell you how many "backlinks" a page has, and the useless "tools" you listed can only GUESS at what traffic any particular page receives.

Absolutely none at all.

The website owners themselves is THE ONLY place you could get that information from.

The other question is:

Are looking to be a publisher of these adverts or are you looking at buying advertising on these pages?

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I know these are the estimations, but it is a pretty good source of info (relative). In the end I dont need to know wheter a site has 2500 or 2425 visitors per month. As long as I can compare sites to each other, that's all that matters.

I found some more info that can be collected, but maybe there is more...

- Google Page Rank
- Number of backlinks indexed by Google
- Google Index
- Alexa Reputation (number of backlinks)
- Number of backlinks indexed by Yahoo
- Yahoo Index
- Bing Index

All useless, nothing there is going to give you the slightest piece of truly useful information, relative or not.

Alexa ranks is the visitor numbers accordingto their toolbar (around 4% of all Internet users) then extrapolated to all users, so what use is a number that is 96% inaccurate and is mainly from one part of the world.

SGB PR is just as meaningless as Alexa rank.

Looking a backlink counts means nothing, you only get a random sample and have no idea which count and which don't.

No idea what you mean by "Google Index", and Yahoo and Bing are one and the same because Yahoo!'s search results come from Bing.

The ONLY thing that you can rely on is YOUR JUDGEMENT.

If you are advertising a page on yours and getting paid for the "clicks", you have to decide IF you are happy sending your traffic to that page and/or your visitors would be interested in what the other pages offer.

If you are buying advertising you have to decide if the visitors to the other pages are going to convert when they arrive on your page.

It nothing at all to do with useless metrics from pointless tools, it is the people visiting pages that you need to analyse, they are the ones who might buy something or perform what ever your conversion goal is.

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Just as a reminder, I am talking about adult affiliate programs, sites like Brazzers, Naughty America, Bangbros etc.

I signed up to about 120 programs all together, look at all the sites that they have (sometimes it is 5 within a program, sometimes 40, and anything in between), and limited my selection to about 60 of them.

I took all of them into an Excel spreadsheet, broken it down to all the sites that are part of these networks and looked at all the info thats available on the internet (everything I mentioned above, like traffic, page rank, backlinks etc). I know this information is not accurate, but I think it might be useful.

For now, I was able to weed out some of the lowest performing sites - they have the least amount of traffic (only about 10%, because I already picked these sites as good base on, like you said, my judgement), and I also noticed that some of the sites have a lot of backlinks, while some of them (I would say most) have none (again, I know its not correct etc).
These sites are mostly multi-site all-access passes etc, and they have to convert a lot better, thats why there is a lot of competition built up around them.
I am gonna write down everything that I can get, one way or another, and try to make some criteria, like average traffic per all the websites for particular program (and then rank them from 1-60 etc), average number of backlinks etc. I know this is not gonna be the most accurate thing, but still there is some info out there that can be used.

...and regardless of the fact that the info is not accurate, I think that it would be safe to assume that the sponsors that have the biggest average traffic per site are the ones that make the most money (I am not talking about affiliates, thats probably a different story), sponsors with the biggest average number of backlings coming to their sites have a lot of other people to compete with etc.
It is relative information, but I think it is definitely worth the time I am taking to do this...

(I have about 55 programs and about 1200 website adressed)

It seems that you are basing these "values" on just one page of these sites, the home page

How do you know they are the "least performing" the people who frequent "adult" sites, do not have "spyware toolbars" installed to their browsers, often have cookies turned off, surf using proxies, etc. etc. Your "least performing sites" may well have the highest trafficed pages of all, and you by using this pseudo scientific method will in all probability miss out on that.

And of course the question remains, are you buying visitors or traffic or are you hoping to get paid for sending converting traffic to these sites?

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That is a very poor and useless assumption.

A: Most adult site site owners are NOT chasing backlinks. They want conversions and mass link building is NOT the way to get conversions.

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From what I am seeing it is definitely worth it to look at these numbers. Websites that are popular (like you heard the name, or visited the site one time or another etc) have high numbers, if sites are less popular, lower quality, or whatever, thats represented in the numbers too.
Backlinks are incoming links to a website, meaning, there is that many affiliates directing traffic their way, hoping for conversions.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlink

Not necessarily.

So judging by your last post you are are hoping to get paid for sending converting traffic TO pages rather than the usual need for estimating traffic to a page to work out what percentage may be diverted/siphoned away by advertising YOUR PAGES on that page.

For YOUR needs you need to be looking at how YOU can get traffic that will suit YOUR conversion goals. So you have the whole thing backwards.

Now if you really want to get a much closer approximation to affiliate links pointing to a particular site/page/program, you need to change your query AWAY from the "link:URL" method.

Let's say one program uses "affid=" followed by your referral ID in its links. You should structure a query as

allinurl:"www.URI"+"URI"+affid where URI is the parent URI of the site.

we'll use WMG as an example and "refid" is the referral parameter

allinurl:"webmasterground.com"+"www.webmastergroun d.com"+refid
This will return results that point to any page on webmasterground.com, www.webmasterground.com and has "refid" in the URL. It will not be a complete list but it will be closer than using a useless link: command.

However the only way to see if a affiliate program will have a positive RoI (Return on Investment) is to try them out and compare YOUR results.

You use A-B testing, or multi-variate testing (Google them if you do not know what they are) so you can compare conversions on YOUR pages for each of the programs.

You can do all the analysis you want on other peoples pages, but it will NOT tell you if their affiliate program will work for you!

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